Now THIS Might Be a RANT

I have a collection of emails going back years from ZoomInfo,RecruiterLife and now evidently RecruiterEarth that may total 100 or more. They seem to be the same people. Those 100 are from after I began saving them for any hungry attorney who wants my case. Bob Style, please forward to a friend. If he/she normally gets 1/3 I’ll volunteer 60% to the attorney who takes this case before we even negotiate.

These emails always have either a return email address that does not work or an opt-out link that appears to work but (evidently) does nothing. For a while, I just deleted them. Then for a while I’d call them and ask that they stop emailing me. They said they would and they didn’t. Now I just collect them. Does anyone have any useful suggestions besides ‘just delete them’? Is there any watchdog group for spamstalking?

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I send a newsletter now and then and I always delete the bounced email addresses and the occasional opt-out. We even sometimes call to apologize. It’s just aggravating that these people just ignore the laws/rules and everything else. I guess it is not surprising given many other experiences I have heard about and even seen back when some of these folks used to sell out-dated phone lists and directories.

On a side note, it’s really odd that somehow the remainder of my spam load seems dramatically lower in the past few months.

Dave Staats places top executives as well as implementation consultants with software companies. He also has made more placements in Artificial Intelligence than any other headhunter. His career began during the SDI (Star Wars) years and included placement of scientists in laser, stealth, and other high-tech fields. During a short hiatus from the recruiting industry in 1994 he obtained a Private Investigator's license which he keeps as a constant reminder that a headhunter is what he really is. Dave is on the Board of Directors of The Pinnacle Society and a founder of The Tennessee Recruiters Association. He has a BA from Western Illinois University. Dave also blogs at Truth, Justice & the American Way of Headhunting


5 Comments on “Now THIS Might Be a RANT

  1. Hi Dave,

    I work at ZoomInfo and just wanted to follow up on my email. Recruiter Life is a 3rd party vendor we contracted with to send out emails on our behalf. As I said in my email, it looks like they are not following the correct procedures on their end. I am looking into this and will resolve the problem for you.
    Again, we apologize for this inconvenience and feel free to contact me directly.

    Barrett Coakley

  2. Barrett: This is good news. It was hard to tell what the relationship was. I think I have explained to ‘real’ ZoomInfo people in the past that I just am not a good prospect and that seemed to be accepted ok. This email thing has just been relentless. If it does indeed stop I’ll be quite happy to narrow the focus of my rant.
    Thanks for the message and for finding a way to make sure I got it.


  3. I’ll call of the dogs (and attorneys) for now. Jim Shaki called and said he believed the 9 instances of my email address he personally removed might actually do the trick this time. I said that if it does it’ll certainly be good for both of us.
    If YOU need to email people try Constant Contact. I know from experience that their email opt-out system works.

  4. Let me preface this comment by letting everyone know that Zoominfo is not to be blamed here. They simply hired us to market their products.

    Over the past 2 years, I’ve been trying diligently to clean up our mailing lists. Much to my chagrin, I have run into a series of unethical programmers, both in-house and via contract work. Rather than ranting on about it, I sincerely apologize to all that have had a bad experience.

    Dave, thanks for taking my call.

  5. This is an ongoing battle. They fix one person’s problem to prevent bad press, but their spam business model remains the same.

    We have been receiving similar emails, all with a non-working , non-existent unsubscribe link, directed to recruiterlife. This all has been received at one of our private company email address which had to be phished or hacked in order to be obtained.

    Spammer identifies himself as Tom Smith, tomsmithcci (using a gmail account). He gives a link to Continental Consultants, which goes to his profile page on “Recruiter Earth”. He claims to be affilliated with NPA worldwide. All email identifiers, IP address, and unsubscribe footer identify as RecruiterLife. He requests replies go to both a gmail account and sc.rr account (both verified to be in his RecruiterEarth profile).

    This is outright spam, and a scam to increase hits (and thus the value) to the recruiterlife website.

    No reason to identify our company info here, because it recruiterlife truly intended to fix the problem and was a legit business, the unsubscribe link would work, they wouldn’t resort to stealing addresses, they wouldn’t be using separate private email addresses for replies, and they wouldn’t be using disclaimers claiming their spam isn’t spam.

    We also are saving these spam emails, along with source code of their servers to prove they are non-compliant, and have opened a case with the FTC regarding the issue. We were directed by the FTC to fax a copy of our data to the FBI as well.

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